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Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Hello,
 
I am collecting funds for the implementation of OPC. I have not forwarded any information to Viart as of yet. I want to see as how many people would like to join / chip in to see this feature implemented in Viart.
 
 
 
I have just completed video recording / snapshot of One Page Checkout from 6 different stores.
 
I have compressed it with 7z format. You will have to open it and then view the SWF file. I chose the SWF file due to its small size.
 
You can use GOM player (its free) to view the SWF files.
 
Please, download the following videos showing the One Page Checkout of each site.
 
I will also upload the Pictures of the One Page Checkout for each site, apart from the Varien.
 
 
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1) 1st Example (Eset)
 
Video:
http://www.mediafire.com/?gdzn5v5tm3j
 
Image:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8213670_93f5bae29b_o.png
 
 
 
 
2). 2nd Example (Misco)
 
Video:
http://www.mediafire.com/?352jdznzy0y
 
Image:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8213669_1a53dd5d31_o.png
 
 
 
3). 3rd Example (Volusion)
 
Video:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4ijyijnjvwu
 
Image:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8213668_e811cf2730_o.png
 
 
 
4). 4th Example (TigerDirect)
 
Video:
http://www.mediafire.com/?dewzemjdzyk
 
Image:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8213671_599ab0b455_o.png
 
 
 
5). 5th Example (Magento)
http://www.mediafire.com/?ddmg3mz2mgo
 
 
 
6). 6th Example (Action Envelope)
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8247462_d78936bbd7_o.png
 
 
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Here are the 2 OPC mockups I created, to for to choose or main any changes.
 
 
1st Mockup Design :
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8294919_8c6d38c292_o.png
 
 
2nd Mockup Design:
http://static.zooomr.com/images/8294895_b66847b069_o.png
 
 
So reply here and let me know who is interested in joining in the funding for this feature.
 
Also, we can discuss any changes to the Mockups, so that we can finalize the OPC which would appeal to the majority.
 
SajMalik
SajMalik
Hello Ibn Saeed
 
You have my comments from the previous thread - as below - and my agreement to go ahead.
 
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I have had a response from Viart that, due to the amount of work to complete this, they do not expect it to appear in the next release.
 
So - anyone wanting a smart, faster, and more customer-friendly check out should seriously consider coming on board -
 
a: The total $600 fee is a fraction of the cost of creating this and will be less that $100 each when 6 or more share.
 
b: You will have to wait a long time to get it is you will have to wait for it to be released within the full program .
 
c: I will share in this; I expect that it will secure more sales and soon pay for itself - for me that means a pay back within a couple of weeks, and that's with low margin products. Having the shipping show up at the top of the page will be so crucial
 
Ibn Saeed has worked hard on this and I hope that many of us will support and share with him.
 
Chris
 
 
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My previous response:
 
Ibn Saeed
 
First to say thank you for all your effort.
 
I prefer the 1st one.
 
Comments:
 
a: I like the boxes for additiona information for me to insert.
I would very much like one for 3) Shipping Method and also for 6) Payment Information
 
b: I would like 6) Payment Information to come below 5) Coupon Code.
I often have orders with several products - sometimes as many as 20 or more, so box 4 could be a long one.
 
I think that would make me very happy Smile
 
When we see it presented that way we have to ask why we would not want such a checkout - surely there must be many other users who would chip in a few $$$s to get this in place??!!??
 
Perhaps we agree with Viart that we will buy this provided that it does not appear as standard in the next upgrade - then those wanting to invest in such great improvements get a real benefit period?
 
Five5
Five5
Thanks Ibn Saeed for your efforts.
 
I like mock up #1. http://static.zooomr.com/images/8294919_8c6d38c292_o.png
 
My suggestion is to put Cart Contents at the very top. As ViArt is so rich with options and sub-components information, having the Cart Contents on only half page width may be a bit limiting and cluttered.
 
I agree with Chris, the additional comments sections are great, and adding same to Payment Info and Coupon Code sections is also a good idea.
 
I think for consistency, these additional info sections of each block should all be at the top of the block just under the title. For the following reasons:
 
* It might be easier for ViArt to build,
* Provides space for long fields (if it is on the right it may not be enough space),
* Enables admin to put in as much or little text as they like and the reminded of the block content moves up or down as required,
* Provide consistency for shoppers.
 
A process question: Assuming a customer is not already registered and chooses to enter new information in the "New Customer" blocks. Does this automatically register them? If so, a place for password and verification image is required. I would prefer they are automatically registered than not registered.
Last modified: 15 Oct 2009 10:42 AM
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Hello Five5
 
I talked to Viart, and this is what they said :
 
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We can't guarantee we will implement the feature 100% like in your mockup because we can't foresee all the possible nuances that we'll have to take into account but we will definitely take your ideas and requirements as the foundation for this feature creation.
 
We just leave a right to make adjustments so it would fit into ViArt the best way.
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I agree with the process of automatic registration, it would be best to get the customer registered while he places the order, rather than taking him to another registration page.
 
All what is needed is the username and password for them to enter (oir the password can be automatically generated this would remove the password field), and the billing and shipping details should be taken from the Checkout Page and saved in the address book.
Last modified: 15 Oct 2009 10:52 AM
 
Five5
Five5
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We can't guarantee we will implement the feature 100% like in your mockup because we can't foresee all the possible nuances that we'll have to take into account but we will definitely take your ideas and requirements as the foundation for this feature creation.
 
We just leave a right to make adjustments so it would fit into ViArt the best way.
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I expect this to be the case. Fair enough.
 
 
I forgot that the username field is also required.
 
I both like and dislike the auto-password generation idea. Will ponder further.
 
Not sure what you mean by "and the billing and shipping details should be taken from the Checkout Page and saved in the address book." Please elaborate.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
What i meant was that, when a new customer (non-registered) comes and adds a product to the shopping cart.
 
After he presses the "Checkout' Button in the shopping cart page, he should be directed to the One Page Checkout .
 
Here, he would be shown all the details required for him to complete the order, the shipping , billing, etc fields needs to be filled.
 
He should not be directed to a "Registration Page" and then to the checkout page.
 
The OPC should have both the username and password field for ths new customer, if he wishes to create an account while ordering.
 
 
so when he would have entered al the details on the OPC, having pressed SUbmit order button, the account should be created automatically by taking the shipping and billing addres the customer entered at the OPC.
 
 
The bottom line is that he should not be asked to enter the shipping and billing address separately.
 
Five5
Five5
"He should not be directed to a "Registration Page" and then to the checkout page."
 
One small thing, the OPC would also need "User Type" prompt for newly registering customers. My primary store has four user types.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
As viart said, they wont be able to implement 100% of the mockup
 
So I really cant say what will be included and what not.
 
I think Viart needs to show us a Mockup of how they see the implementation.
 
Then we can decide if we should pay for it or not. Otherwise, we would be paying blindly for a feature which wont be 100% as per the request.
 
I think now Viart needs to step in. I have done my part and I ll wait and see what Viart does.
 
SajMalik
SajMalik
"so when he would have entered all the details on the OPC, having pressed SUbmit order button, the account should be created automatically by taking the shipping and billing address the customer entered at the OPC."
 
I like the idea. I insist upon registration for orders, so this works for me - except that, for an unregistered user, we need to be able to place CAPTCHA on the page before the account is created.
 
I feel that we are moving to a smart concensus Broad grin
 
Chris
 
Five5
Five5
Getting there.
 
Please hand over to ViArt for mock up if they will do that for us. It seems the best way.
 
Thanks again.
 
"I like the idea. I insist upon registration for orders, so this works for me..."
 
I don't insist on registration, but 99% of customers do anyway. If a big deal is not made out of registering vs not registering (i.e. make it automatic as we have been discussing), then people probably don't mind. After all, they need to enter all but password* regardless if they register or not. * I use set email address as username.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Lets now bring Viart in the process.
 
Since the final decision of the layout will be with them, so we need them to show a mockup or a design of how they want to implement the OPC.
 
SajMalik
SajMalik
That makes sense.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Here is the latest reply from Viart Team:
 
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Hello Ibn Saeed,
 
On the current checkout button there is a setting to transfer customer to user_login page where he can choose whether to create a new account or checkout without it. Anyway we are planning to make additional option in admin either to lead customer straight to OPC page or to user_login first.
 
As for mockups we think every user would be able to select for himself how to arrange blocks using CMS.
 
Let us know if you would like to discuss anything else.
 
With regards,
Vera
ViArt Support Team
 
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I agree with Viart on
 
"As for mockups we think every user would be able to select for himself how to arrange blocks using CMS. "
 
 
I think this is an excellent idea and it should give the merchants the power to display whatever option they desire to be shown at the OPC.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Regarding "|either to lead customer straight to OPC page or to user_login first. "
 
I vote for leading the customer straight to OPC and the account should be created automatically,( if the customer provides a username and the password ) , if the customer does not wish to create an account, he may just leave the username and password fields empty and just fill the Billing, Shipping adress etc. at the OPC.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
I suggest that the OPC should be optional in the Admin section, where any merchant who wishes to use OPC can switch it on and off.
 
Maybe, some merchants may not require OPC and they might be satisfied with the present checkout.
 
Just a side note to keep in mind.
 
SajMalik
SajMalik
... if the customer does not wish to create an account, he may just leave the username and password fields empty and just fill the Billing, Shipping adress etc. at the OPC....
 
Admin should have option to insist or not that OPC creates an account automatically.
 
Ibn Saeed - this is all looking exciting!!!
You are doing a really great job, thanks.
 
Chris
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
"Admin should have option to insist or not that OPC creates an account automatically."
 
Yes, agreed. Good
 
Five5
Five5
"I vote for leading the customer straight to OPC and the account should be created automatically,( if the customer provides a username and the password ) , if the customer does not wish to create an account, he may just leave the username and password fields empty and just fill the Billing, Shipping adress etc. at the OPC." Agreed.
 
"I suggest that the OPC should be optional in the Admin section, where any merchant who wishes to use OPC can switch it on and off." Agreed.
 
"Admin should have option to insist or not that OPC creates an account automatically." Agreed.
 
I like the idea that each admin can select the block layout with CMS. Cool.
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Update from Viart:
 
 
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Hello Ibn Saeed,
 
As we are planning to make OPS a global feature, we don't think your suggestion of automatic account creation will fit all ViArt users. You see in ViArt you can create different kinds of User Types each one can have its own registration fields and the registration process could be separated on a couple of steps, also for some User Types subscription payment could be required that's why combining Checkout with automatic account creation does not fit with current ViArt functionality.
 
We are planning to make an option in admin where user can select on clicking Checkout' whether to lead customer at once to OPC where there will be available user login block or to user_login page where customer could select appropriate User Type and create an account.
 
With regards,
Vera
ViArt Support Team
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SajMalik
SajMalik
Ibn Saeed - I have no problem with this.
 
Chris
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
So Chris and Five5.
 
Should I start the funds collection ? or is there something left to decide ?
 
Five5
Five5
I'm in.
 
SajMalik
SajMalik
Let's get on with it!
 
But perhaps, first, we just need a FINAL tally of who is with us so that we know how much.
 
So far in this thread we have
Ibn Saeed
Five5
ChristopherO
 
Presumabley we also have:
Rishit_Khandelwal
on2dvd
eyestrain
- could you guys please confirm?
 
It may be that others would like to join and that could reduce the cost to each person?
 
On the basis of all six above sharing the cost is really very affordable - a few more and it costs very little at all.
 
And it would also be fair to give ALL USERS a chance to have this given that this feature is so unlikely to be in the next release and may not be generally available for a long time.
 
Chris
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
I will start to collect funds when we have atleast 6 people on board.
 
Each would have to contribute $100.
Last modified: 20 Oct 2009 4:18 AM
 
Five5
Five5
Sound like a plan:
 
C'mon gang - 3 more to join the fun please. Yahoo!
 
Ibn Saeed
Ibn Saeed
Yes, need just 3 more people to join. Then the viart can work on implementing the feature.
Last modified: 22 Oct 2009 10:12 AM
 

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