I have requested ViArt to look into the possibility of modifying the tax situation for Canada. If any Canadian company would like to share in this cost with us, please let us know.
Regards
alkatraz
3 Apr 2008 5:18 PM
We are interested
foxtrotdomains.com
3 Apr 2008 6:28 PM
Hello:
We will have to share the the cost. I have already committed to ViArt. Please provide me with way to contact you.
Regards
alkatraz
4 Apr 2008 7:15 AM
email, northwestnissans at gmail
alkatraz
4 May 2008 10:44 PM
att: Riyaz, I saw you were Canadian. Do you want to buy into this feature too?
foxtrotdomains.com
4 May 2008 11:29 PM
Colin and I already have committed to this. Are you interested?
wazoodle
5 May 2008 3:30 PM
I would be interested, is there a spec?
foxtrotdomains.com
5 May 2008 3:36 PM
How do we get in touch with you. Your e-mail?
Regards
wazoodle
5 May 2008 3:47 PM
mike at wazoodle dot com
foxtrotdomains.com
7 May 2008 3:38 AM
So Mike, are you interested? I e-mailed you but had no response.
Red Wagon (Guest)
7 May 2008 8:44 PM
Is this regarding HST??
My client needs to know if there is the ability to edit the list of
Provinces (in Canada) that charge HST (Harmonized Sales Tax).
I would like to know before I purchase ViArt.
foxtrotdomains.com
7 May 2008 9:03 PM
We have advised ViArt that we require 2 separate taxes on the system for Canadian customers. GST is Federal and PST and HST is provincial.
If you sell within an HST province you will setup HST and GST as your taxes. If you sell outside your province I believe you only charge GST.
Selling outside Canada - there is no tax.
If you are in say Ontario, all we have to do is setup PST for Ont, and GST for the entire country. We do not charge PST or HST to customers outside our province.
From what I understand if you have a physical presence in other provinces then you will charge that provinces Taxes.
Of course you should be checking all this with your accountant to get more accurate info.
You may also check directly with ViArt for more info, since they are still programming the changes.
I have faith in ViArt that they will code the changes correctly, let us test it and if required amend the changes.
I have already purchased the product and have started building my store. I hope this helps.
Right now Viart tax system can calculate a flat tax based on the Province of delivery. You set the rates for those provinces by adding PST+GST based on your requirement to collect tax. This all works to give you the correct tax amounts except when an item is provincially exempt from PST (i.e saafety shoes, unprepared foods, or childrens wear size 0 to 6x in Ontario).
Clients rarely complain about having their taxes jumbled together on invoices, i.e. Tax: GST+PST $1.30.
Clients always complain if you charge them PST on an item they know is exempt.
Bookkeepers complain about the amount of work neede to hand hand tabulate taxes for filing purposes. For me, this is the driver for making the driver for this project: having each province's PST, HST and GST independently summarized is a real time saver.
foxtrotdomains.com
8 May 2008 7:37 PM
Yes they can calculate single tax. My clients will be mainly businesses and corporation, thus they find it a drag to separate GST from PST, and would like to see individual amounts, so that they can claim their GST portion.
If your clients cannot claim the GST portion or don't worry about the PST issue then the single tax wold work fine for you.
For items that don't or shouldn't have PST will be indicated on the individual product screen. This is one scope that will take care of the dual tax issue.
I have indicated to ViArt (and if you are interested in this Tax please point it out to them) that we need each product to have both taxes associated with it so that we can accommodate for situations where there is only GST to a product and no PST.
Does this help you at all?
For us, we need the 2 taxes for our clients convenience.
Thanks.
wazoodle
8 May 2008 9:56 PM
PST exemption isn't quite that simple. Each province has a different list of PST exempt items and PST is often not applied to services or products that include a service component.
I'm not suggesting making a mountain out of a mole hill, but if you're going to invest into making the tax component work in a 2-teir regime, it's worth doing correctly.
As a side note, finishing a 2 teir would open the doors for Viart to be used in many parts of the US where local sales taxes are collected in addition to state sales tax. Not all that important on Internet only sales, but crucial for sales booked at an order desk, retail kiosk or at POS.
foxtrotdomains.com
9 May 2008 10:05 PM
Some good points Mike. Perhaps you should e-mail these thoughts to ViArt (Denis).
If every product has it's own tax control option, then where does it become an issue? Whilst setting up a product we do have a choice of indicating if the product is taxable or not.
Minista (Guest)
10 May 2008 1:01 AM
HI! you don't need to have a new feauture to be able to handle Canadian taxes.
All you have to do it's to have all Canadian Provinces
And set the taxe for each province
1) Add each province (Menu System==>Static Table==>States)
Administration > Static Tables > States
2)Now Go to the Menu Orders And click on Tax Rates
3) Now Add Each Province Tax
I'm From Quebec So
I set All the other provinces rate to 5% and Quebec to 12.88
This is not the perfect solution,but it's working.
Regards
wazoodle
10 May 2008 1:56 AM
Minista,
That's workable for most companies. Where it gets tricky is when you:
* have more than $30K in retail sales
* have presence in more than 1 province
* deal with a mixture of items that are PST exempt in some cases or some provinces, but not others.
Some examples where taxes are complicated: clothes, shoes etc in Ontario, get charged 5%GST only on kids sizes 6x and under, footwear under $30, where larger sizes are 5%GST + 8% RST. If you sell event tickets, there is only 5%GST when the price is <=$4, if the ticket is >$4, 5% GST + 10% RST. Fixtures, auto parts are another problem, they have GST and PST when sold alone, only GST when sold with installation service.
foxtrotdomains.com
10 May 2008 2:30 AM
It works in some cases, but for my business I would prefer 2 separate taxes.
Even if you don't sell over $30K/yr, I think it is better to have the GST # so you can claim it. Otherwise you have a situation where you are paying 5% GST on products purchased but cannot charge your clients the GST, on top of that you cannot claim the GST that you paid.
Since you are from Quebec, it would work for since you have an amalgamated TAX. In Ont and other provinces we have 2 separate taxes and my corporate clients prefer to see it as separate items.
This is good though at least we have a few users in Canada to discuss different issues.
Mike where are you from? Which Province?
wazoodle
10 May 2008 6:31 PM
Riyaz,
Markham ON. I manage b2c and b2b sites with single and multi country presence. I've seen virtually every tax and shipping challenge a web store could ever face!
foxtrotdomains.com
12 May 2008 1:40 AM
Richmond Hill here. Just getting into e-commerce. Need advise on shipping setups.
wazoodle
12 May 2008 4:14 PM
Riyaz, you can contact me by phone at 905 294 0850
alkatraz
26 Jun 2008 11:43 PM
Whats the update on this? It's been 2.5 months since I paid for this modification.